Session 13

 

Q. Welcome ladies and gentlemen to this new episode. Today we answer a very important question through discussing John 1:21, ‘And they asked him, ‘what then? Are you Elijah?’ He said, ‘I am not.’ ‘Are you the Prophet?’ And he answered, ‘No.’ Together we resume our study with Dr. Nagi Youssef. Last episode we talked together about the Jewish Priests asking Prophet John, son of Zechariahs, about whom he is. They asked him, ‘Are you Elijah?’ ‘He said ‘I am not’ ‘are you the Prophet?’ ‘And he answered, ‘no’. Dr. Nagi you said that the question of the Jewish leaders to Prophet John the Baptist, whether he was “the Prophet ", is linked to a prophecy stated in Deuteronomy 18:15. Could you please give us an idea about the prophecy?

A. God gave the prophecy to Moses, spokesman of God, as he was instructing the People of Israel before he died. He said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren. To Him you shall hear’. Deuteronomy 18:15. The People of Israel waited in anticipation for this Prophet until John, son of Zechariahs came. He was the first to appear after 400 years of silence on the part of the Almighty. As we already said, they believed he might be the Prophet, but he said he was not.

 

Q. Beloved Moslems believe that this Prophet that Moses prophesied about was the Prophet of Islam. You said he was not. Why wouldn't he be the Prophet of Islam?

A. The Prophet mentioned in this prophecy could not possibly be the Prophet of Islam for many irrefutable reasons, of which I’ll mention a few: Reviewing the prophecy, we find that it says, ‘the Lord your God will raise up for you’, meaning the People of Israel. In other words, Moses tells his People that the Prophet of which he is prophesying will come to the People of Israel – not to the Arabs, nor to any other nation. As for the Prophet of Islam, he was an Arab, and had an Arabic tongue, not a Hebrew one.  Moses, spokesman of God confirmed that the Prophet would come from you midst. Whether Moses meant a geographic location by “midst “or physically from the midst of the People of Israel, this does not apply to the Prophet of Islam. The Prophet of Islam was not from the People of Israel, and geographically speaking, he did not appear in Palestine, but in the Arab countries. The prophecy further confirms that the Prophet is from “your brethren” which confirms that the Prophet had to be physically from the People of Israel, since he was intended to come to the People of Israel.

 

Q. The word ‘from your brethren’ does not mean ‘from you’ (not from your descendents), as per the beloved Moslems say. They say that had the prophecy been meant for the People of Israel, he would have said, ‘from you’. But ‘from your brethren’ means the descendents of Ishmael, from hence came the Prophet of Islam.

A. The prophecy said ‘your brethren’ and not you, simply because Moses was addressing 12 tribes, not one tribe or group. If he had been addressing one tribe from whom the Prophet was to come, he would have said “from you”– meaning the tribe. But the prophecy did not identify a tribe in particular. He was therefore addressing each tribe saying, from your brethren, meaning one of the other 11 tribes. Had Moses been addressing the tribe of Judah for example, he would've said from your midst – from yourself. Whereas addressing Reuben, Simeon or Levi, he should say, ‘From your brethren’ meaning the tribe of Judah.

 

Q. Why couldn't ‘your brethren’ be ascribed to the sons of Ishmael?

A. Because the sons of Ishmael were in constant animosity with the People of Israel; they did not live among the People of Israel. Also when God promised Abraham, friend of the Almighty, of a son, Abraham asked God, saying ‘Oh that Ishmael might live before you!’ then God said: ‘No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac’. Genesis 17:18, 19. And further the Lord God Almighty says ‘for in Isaac your seed shall be called’ Genesis 21:12. Thus the Almighty was speaking of the seed (descendents) who would inherit the promise that God Almighty had given to Father Abraham, and the Prophet of Islam is not a descendent of any of the tribes of Israel.

 

Q. Are there any other proofs that this prophesy could not possible be meant for the Prophet of Islam?

A. There is indeed strong evidence that implies within many other proofs, it is the word, “like me“. Let us recall the prophecy; it says “the Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst". It was Moses, spokesman of God who said those words, specifying that the coming Prophet had to be like him – like Moses, Prophet of the Almighty.

 

Q. In what sense should the Prophet resemble Moses?

A. This is a very good question. In my opinion, the Prophet of which Moses, spokesman of God, prophesied, had to resemble him in every thing.

 

Q. You know that it is impossible for two People to be identical in all things. In any context, two compared People could never be identical.

A. It is true that there are no two identical People, even though they resemble each other in many ways. But two resembling each other, could never be repellent to each other – one contradictory to the other, or else, they could not be told to resemble one another

 

Q. Could you please give us some examples of disparity between the two Prophets?

A. First: Origin wise, Moses spokesman of God Almighty was Jewish; he belonged to the People of Israel. The Prophet of Islam is of Arabic origin though, coming from the tribe of “Quraish “in the Arab Peninsula. Second: Moses was educated, raised and ‘learned by all the wisdom of the Egyptians,’ Acts 7:22, during a time when the Egyptian civilization was the master of all contemporary civilizations. As for the Prophet of Islam, he was illiterate, not knowing how to read or write. Third: God Almighty called Prophet Moses in person, the day He appeared to him at the burning bush, and sent him to the People of Israel in Egypt. (Moses said in Deuteronomy 5:4, addressing the People of Israel, ‘the Lord talked with you face to face on the mountain.’ As for the Prophet of Islam, he never claimed to have seen, or spoken with God Almighty. The Prophet of Islam said that it was Angel Gabriel who announced to him the call. Fourth, God endorsed His spokesman, Moses by supernatural acts and miracles, ever since the very first moment he called him to take the People of Israel from Egypt. As for the Prophet of Islam, the Glorious Quoran testifies that he was not a performer of miracles as per Suras 7 (A1 Aaraf) 7:188 and 203 and Surah 17: 90-96 (Surah A1 Israa). Fifth: Moses, God’s spokesman, within the five books that he transcribed, wrote many prophecies (lead by the spirit of God), that were completely fulfilled throughout history. As for the Prophet of Islam, he did not prophecy once throughout the Glorious Quoran.

 

Q. Dr Nagi, it is quite clear that there are many differences between Moses, spokesman of God, and the Prophet of Islam?

A. Well, in my opinion, the most substantial difference between both is the teaching that God Almighty had sent. All the laws and obligations that God Almighty had given to Moses were annulled and voided by the Prophet of Islam.

 

Q. Could you please give us an example of this teaching?

A. Moses, Spokesman of God, brought about clear texts on sacrifices and redemption: Man had to offer sacrifices to atone for his sins. The Prophet of Islam never recognized the need for a sacrifice to atone for the Sin of Man; he did not recognize redemption either.  Moses spokesman of God introduced an order of Priesthood, headed by Prophet Aaron. whereas Islam absolutely rejected this Priesthood order, declaring that there is no Priesthood in Islam, neither is there offering of sacrifices for atonement Moses, spokesman of God believed and admitted that the promised son of Abraham, Father of all believers, is Isaac, and that it was Isaac whom Abraham, friend of the Almighty's attempted to present as a burnt offering to God on Mount Moriah. Whereas the Prophet of Islam said that Abraham’s promised son was Ishmael.  Prophet Moses declared that the People of Israel were God's chosen People, where as the Prophet of Islam told his People that they are the best nation ever descended of Mankind (translator's version).

 

Q. Are there other differences between the Prophet of God, and Prophet of Islam?

A. It is quite clear that Prophet Moses loved his People, the People of Israel, and was dedicated to serve them. He never waged, nor led war against them; he never regarded them as enemies, nor has he ever provoked his followers to fight them, as did the Prophet of Islam. Besides, it is clear that the People of Israel were under the impression that the Prophet that Moses, spokesman of God had prophesied was to come before the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) came, not after Him. That’s why they asked John, son of Zechariahs, whether he was the Prophet. The prophecy does not tell of a Prophet who was to come after the Lord Christ (Glory be to His Name), as is the case with the Prophet of Islam. These evidences are only a few; there are many other irrefutable proofs that are hard to recount in this context due to time limitation. The bottom line is that the Prophet of whom Moses, spokesman of God, was referring to in his prophecy is someone else, other than the Prophet of Islam.

 

Q. If the Prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy is not the Prophet of Islam, and not John, son of Zechariahs, then who is he?

A. Simply, He is the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name).

 

Q. Dr Nagi, from what you had just said, it is clear that the Prophet to in Deuteronomy, could not possibly be the Prophet of Islam.  But to say that it is the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name), this is somewhat odd?

A. What is odd about it? Why couldn't be the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) be meant by this prophecy?

 

Q. First, because the prophecy says, ‘a Prophet will came’, not the Lord Christ will come. Second you had said that the Jews were convinced that the Prophet would come before the Christ (Messiah). Third: The teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) was different from the teaching of Moses, spokesman of God.

A. Let us discuss these three points, since they could be misunderstood, leading someone to think that the Prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:15 is someone else other than the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name).  First, there is nothing odd about the Lord Jesus Christ being a Prophet, since among His many attributes that He is Prophet, King, Priest, and God Almighty revealed in human flesh; all of which are marvelous attributes, and heavenly jobs, that are not assigned save to those chosen by God Almighty. That the Lord Christ (Glory be to His Name) is a Prophet, is only natural. God Almighty as a Messenger sent him to People - as guidance and mercy to mankind. Therefore saying that the Lord Jesus Christ is a Prophet and Messenger does not undermine Him by any means.

 

Q. Dr. Nagi, how can the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) be a Prophet or Messenger of God, yet be God revealed in human flesh?

A. I've answered this question several times before, saying that we need to differentiate between the Lord Jesus Christ as God in heaven, and the Lord Jesus Christ, the man walking on earth.  A man who has a human body could be said to be Prophet, Messenger, King, Priest and others. But being God, or essence of God, He exists ever eternally. Thus He could not, in this context, be called Prophet or Messenger. He is the One who sends messengers and Prophets.

 

Q. What about the conviction of the Jews, that the Prophet would come before the Lord Christ, or the Messiah, comes to the world?

A. This was the conviction of the Jess, or some of them, that the Prophet had to come before the Messiah, but the prophecy did not state this. Still the prophecy could not apply to a Prophet who would come after the Messiah (the Lord Jesus Christ) came to the world. That’s why some of the Jews believed that the Prophet of which Moses, spokesman of God prophesied, is the anticipated Messiah.

 

Q. What is your proof that some yews believed that the Prophet could be the Messiah?

A. This was clear in the question posed by the Jewish Priests to John the Baptist. First they questioned him if he was the Messiah; when he confessed, did not deny, but confessed that he was not the Messiah, they asked him if he was Elijah. (Elijah was supposed to come before the Messiah as per the prophecy of Malachi). Then they asked him if he was the Prophet. If they had believed that the Prophet would come after the Messiah, knowing that the Messiah hadn't come yet, then their question would be absurd (meaningless). How could he not be the Messiah who is assumedly supposed to come before the Prophet, yet they ask if he was the Prophet.  It is either that the Prophet is the person of the Lord Christ Himself, or someone who preceded Him, but never a person who would come after Him.

 

Q. Well, based on this theory, it is possible to believe that the Prophet is the person of the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) as you have explained before, He is Prophet, Messenger, and God revealed in human flesh. Then it is either that the Prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy is the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, or someone who preceded Him. But it is clear that the teachings of the Lord Christ are different from those of Moses. The words ‘like me’ which Prophet Moses therefore said in his prophecy, ‘the Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me’, do not apply to the Lord Christ

A. the words “like me’ definitely apply to the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) in many aspects. Even where both are not identical, they are not repellent.

 

Q. Would you please give us examples as you did while comparing between Prophet Moses, and the Prophet of Islam?

A. Well to start with, origin wise, the Lord Jesus Christ, Lord of the heavens, was physically a descendent of David, from the descendents of Abraham, friend of the Almighty.  In other words, He belonged to the People of Israel. Education wise, He was not illiterate, but well educated the Holy Scripture says of Him that Jesus increased in wisdom and stature’, and that He used to debate with the Jewish instructors when He was 12 years old. His call was meant for the People of Israel at first, as is said in John 1:11, 'He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him “His own’ refers to the People of Israel, as we explained in a previous episode. The Lord Christ was never hostile to his People, the Jews, He rather pleaded for them, just like Moses did, and even more. He did not battle against them using swords, but rather stopped His disciples from killing one of them, as they came to arrest and crucify Him. Also the words "from your brethren”, which came in the prophecy apply to the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name), because He descended from the tribe of Judah, thus He is from the brethren - the tribes of Reuben, and Benjamin and others. The Lord Christ spoke with God, as Prophet Moses did, and even more. He was also a performer of miracles as was Prophet Moses; and He said many prophecies that were fulfilled to the letter, and the rest are yet to be fulfilled.

 

Q. What about the teaching of both? It is clear that Moses set an order of Priesthood, sacrifices and promoted the concept of redemption that the Lord Christ did not instruct of, but rather instructed of a different Law?

A. The Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) said, ‘do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill’. Mathew 5:17.  The Lord Christ demanded that Christians keep all the Ten Commandments that God Almighty had given to Moses, spokesman of God.  As for the principle of redemption, the Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) has confirmed it by His death on the cross. the Lord Christ did not abrogate the order of sacrifices which God Almighty had presented to Prophet Moses, He rather fulfilled it by offering Himself once as a sacrifice, and thus He satisfied the justice of God Almighty. Moses encouraged and provoked his followers to be well armed with power and horses in order to frighten away their enemies, the enemies of the Almighty. The Lord Jesus Christ (Glory be to His Name) granted His followers special spiritual power to overcome their enemies: not by sword, nor by horses, rather by Love, benevolence and self denial. He thus fulfilled what was lacking in the Law of Moses, spokesman of God: Love.  Moses had instructed the People of Israel to present a faultless lamb in the Passover; the Lord Jesus Christ offered Himself, as a sacrifice in the Passover, in order to fulfill what was written in the Holy Scripture, “For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us? I Co 5:7.  To sum it up, there is a complete resemblance between the teaching of the Lord Jesus Christ, and that of Moses, spokesman of God. As for any teachings which came after the Lord Christ came to earth, those were totally contradictory to what Prophet Moses, and our Lord Prophet and God, the Lord Jesus Christ, had left us

 

Q. Dr Nagi, in the end of this episode, I would like to ask you to sum up your answers to these questions, in one sentence?

A. The Prophet whom the Jews had asked John the Baptist about, with reference to the prophecy stated in the book of Deuteronomy, applies completely on the Lord Jesus Christ.  It and does not in any sense apply to the Prophet of Islam.